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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:13 am ] |
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Hi everyone, if you are using cables to connect any musical instrument to an amp or soundboard or other devices you need this...Klotz cables. Klotz is a German company that manufactures the best cables in the industry...better than George-L, Monster, Planet Waves, etc. You can't even begin to compare. Most of the top studios in the U.S. now use this cable. if you don't know much about how your cable affects your sound let me tell you...Straight from Gerald Webber's mouth...(Amplifier Guru Master) "It's all about capacitance. A capacitor is two conductors seperated by a non-conductor. So by definition, your guitar cable is a capacitor. You can hook a cap meter to your guitar cable and get a verifiable, scientific measurement of the exact amount of capacitance. Capacitors will conduct AC and since your guitar's output is AC, the capacitance of a guitar cable actually shorts out your signal to a degree...the more capacitance a cable has, the more it loses detail and clarity of your signal. In fact when you increase capacitance the first thing to go is the HARMONICS AND OVERTONES...the very stuff that makes the guitar sound full and rich." Klotz cables have the lowest capacitance of all cables I have tested. Besides noticing the IMMEDIATE INCREASE in bottom-end,the clarity improves. The mids are smooth and rich and the highs are jangley and defined. American made, top line cables, have between 1700 pf -2500pf of capacitance, the Klotz LaGrange cable 425 pf and the KIK cable has only 628pf. Who uses them...Dixie Chicks, Tom Petty, Eric Johnson, and the Scorpions to name a few. Almost all top of the line studios are wired with Klotz and have dozens of guitar cables on hand for their customers...it just makes sense (you want good tone). This is a huge DIFFERENCE! O.k. so where do you get them? Thru me.I am an authorized Klotz Dealer. How much?...depending on Length and model $59.99 to $89.99. I know that sounds like a lot...but it really isn't...consider all the things we do to build a great guitar and then we loose all the great tone thru a cheap/inferior cable. It doesn't make sense. These cables are the BEST. I mean that. You can litteraly hear the difference! TRY THESE CABLES - THEY COME WITH A MONEY BACK GUARRANTEE! Email me at Klotz@siestakeyguitars.com for more info or to place an order( you can always call too 941-921-6063) DO IT TODAY...YOUR TONE CAN'T WAIT! p.s. KLOTZ cables are warranteed for a period of 5yrs WORLD WIDE. Take them on tour, abuse the heck out of them, and if it ever fails, simply return it and you get a brand new one...anywhere in the world ! |
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| Author: | peterm [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:31 am ] |
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Sounds like a great product!! Awesome warranty! How come Klotz is a German company but the cables are american made?? "American made, top line cables, have between 1700 pf -2500pf of capacitance, the Klotz LaGrange cable 425 pf and the KIK cable has only 628pf." |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:31 am ] |
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Dave, you can make the Fonts larger too
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:24 am ] |
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Why do I feel like I've just driven down Main Street, Las Vegas? 
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| Author: | Shane Neifer [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:50 am ] |
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"DO IT TODAY...YOUR TONE CAN'T WAIT!" MANNN!!! I wish I had thought of that line! Shane 
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| Author: | Serge Poirier [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:03 am ] |
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Man, i should get a paycheck from work every day and not be working on payday, i 'd have lots of time to go and shop for tone stuff!   |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:05 am ] |
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Peter, they aren't American made they are German made. When I used the term "American made" it was a catch-all for some of the premium cables currently being marketed in the U.S.A. as such. Those cables have 5 times more capacitance as I stated. Who know's...maybe there aren't any "American made" cables anymore... These German made cables are the best I have ever used.  
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:13 am ] |
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[QUOTE=CarltonM] Why do I feel like I've just driven down Main Street, Las Vegas? [/QUOTE]
I don't know Carlton...Have you been drinking heavily and lost all your money?
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:41 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Dave-SKG] [QUOTE=CarltonM] Why do I feel like I've just driven down Main Street, Las Vegas? [/QUOTE]
I don't know Carlton...Have you been drinking heavily and lost all your money? [/QUOTE]
Darn! You saw the police blotter! 
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| Author: | Tim McKnight [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:58 pm ] |
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David: When I saw your thread I had to read it. I raced dirt bikes for 17 years and my 2 stroke oil of choice was always KLOTZ. Yep, they make a complete line of high performance lubricants but I am sure it is a different company .. but thanks for bringing back some fond memories. |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:52 am ] |
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Tim, I am pretty sure it's a different company, but you never know? It sure was nice talking to you the other day. If any of your pro customers are in need of some top quality cables please let me know. I am sure they have used Klotz in the recording studio. If they buy them and don't like them... they can return them for a refund. That's my guarrantee. 
Keep in Touch, GBWYA |
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| Author: | rlabbe [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:46 am ] |
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Let's see. The 3dB roll off point is f = 1 / (2Pi RC) Assuming a guitar with 20Kohm impedance plugged into a amp with 50kohm impedance, using typical cable with 720pF for a 6 meter lengh, f = 15473Hz. I don't know what the KLOTZ capacitance is per meter, but it certainly has the ability to audibly affect the high end in moderately long lengths. I.e., if it's capacitance is 5 times better, f will be 5 times bigger, and thus comfortable outside the range of human hearing. OTOH, I'd never worry about capacitance for connecting studio gear or my stereo, since these are designed with low output and high inputs, and f runs in the several Mhz range for standard cables. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:11 am ] |
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I have a friend who recently bought a couple of these cables. They were shorter lengths. I happened to go over to his shop and he was testing them out against some other Monster cables. We could not hear any difference at all to speak of, and sure not any to warrant the price. But maybe for them longer cables it is audible. The cables were built like tanks though which is very cool. |
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:02 am ] |
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Hey Tim, I remember that Klotz 2 cycle too! I used it as a kid in my Benneli mini bike ! Good stuff.I rememeber it had an unusual color,( bright red ?) ,just differant from the other brands.This was in the late 60's.Wonder if its made in Germany too? |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:26 am ] |
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John, If you can't hear the difference you get your money back! I hope you and your friend got your money back. Obviously the cable won't do you or him any good. Thanks for the comment. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:12 am ] |
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I'm not sure what he did. But it's good to know that policy. Very confident, which is a great thing. Again it was only like a 10 foot or 15 foot length cable so maybe the longer ones make more of a difference...I don't know as that one time was my only exposure to the cables. |
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| Author: | rlabbe [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:35 pm ] |
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John, As the equation above shows, cable capacitance only matter when the instrument's output impedance is very high, and/or the cable run is very long. So, for example, these cables would be pointless for any guitar with a preamp (low output impedance), low impedance, etc. But notice the -3dB dropoff is at 15K, which means the lowest audible difference is at about the threshold of hearing. 20k is cited as the threshold for humans, but that is only true for kids. I doubt many of us wood workers can hear even 15K these days. So it is conceivable that there was a small difference (-3dB is VERY small, at the threshold of detection), but that you didn't hear it. It is also possible that the guitar in question had low impedance, in which case no one could have heard the difference. |
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| Author: | Tom Dowey [ Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:44 am ] |
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Dave, Are your prices list, or are they discounted for OLF members? |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:04 am ] |
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Hi Tom, Unfortunately the prices are set by the Sole American Distributor - my supplier. I am told that any Dealer selling the cable for less gets the Boot! What I am offering is a money back guarrantee (less S&H which is small). There's no sales tax if that makes you feel any better. I'm not sure if any other dealer offers the money back guarrantee ( I think they do). Let me think of how/what I can do for OLF'rs to spice the deal. |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:44 am ] |
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How about this...anyone who is an OLF member, who buys two or more cables, any length (patch cords, 10ft, 15ft,20ft)... gets two free sets of (D'addario lites - 12's) strings. You need two cables...one from the amp to the effects and one from the effects to the guitar. Besides once you buy one cable, you always want another. Ever have just one of anything good?  |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:56 am ] |
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The manufacturer/distributor cannot force you to sell a product for any certain price. One you purchase the merchandise you can sell it for whatever you want....even if you want to take a loss you can do so (although that would be just plain dumb). It's federal policy. However what they do, and you mentioned this, is they can pull a dealership. Anyway...D'Addarios are nice strings for sure! :) |
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| Author: | John [ Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:41 am ] |
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info on cables relevant to above discussion http://www.lavacable.com/myweb/CableSummit4.pdf |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:30 am ] |
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[QUOTE=John] info on cables relevant to above discussion http://www.lavacable.com/myweb/CableSummit4.pdf[/QUOTE] John, Thank you for that link. That seems like a well done, well written comparison and certainly was informative. It also showed, from my observation, that there were as many ,(if not more than), as ten (10) other cable manufaturer's (selling cables of a "premium" quality ) that were priced well over the Klotz cable. Of course there were some cheaper but not many and of those I have owned many (and still do)but they really don't compare to the Klotz. Many of these top TEN ( at least four) were priced in the $300 range and several others a $100 or more for a 12ft cable ! WOW! Sure makes the Klotz look inexpensive at $59.99 for a 10ft'r. I urge anyone considering buying a top end cable to read this article...it's not simply a "one example" opinion but a test done over a period of months that was as scientific as I have seen yet. Thanks again John. |
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